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  1. jachut

    Band to sleeve

    I'm going to go out on a limb here, and make a controversial statement. My lapband was a MUCH better hunger suppressor than my sleeve. Far and away. My sleeve is working and I have lost 12kg in 8 weeks (pretty good considering I got sleeved at a BMI of 30, long story told elsewhere). I dont regret it and I think its a better long term tool because it cant slip or erode. But I am Hungry. All. The. Time. The tiny portions dont stick, I'm absolutely starving at every snack and mealtime. It's not tragic, you get hungry, you eat right? But with the band, even once I had a pouch, I did not get hungry, ever. With my sleeve I must snack, I'm just too hungry not to. And I'm having to really work that old 5pm on the way home from work temptation that has always been my downfall because I am starving hungry. Whereas it used to always be just because work finished and I was tired and it was a habit, but not because I was hungry. Weight loss is slow because I cant mange the 800 calorie a day routine, I'd die. I'm eating 1400 or so.
  2. I really havent read and read and read about gastric sleeve before being sleeved last week. I mean, I've been down the WLS path, I know what to expect, even from a different tool. But I swear my phone listens to me. Suddenly my youtube suggestions were all these what I eat in a day things and they were all American. All I can say is YUCK! Even people who call themselves things like Foodieturnedsleevie - what they eat is utter crap. Packet this, box that, protein bar protein bar protein bar. With sausage and cheese on the side. But hey, if you hit 90g of protein, who cares about the hydrogenated fats, additives, artificial sweeteners, right? I do not plan to eat this way, and have fed a family a healthy plant full diet for years but googling around, gee, there's not many inspiring people (to me anyway) out there! Suggestions gratefully recieved.
  3. jachut

    Band to sleeve

    Sure. I have a coffee when I wake up and later on the way to work, I buy a skinny cappucino - usually a large one as I'm conditioned to run on a LOT of caffeine, lol, but its a good dose of calcium and protein the dairy. I hate breakfast - cant stand eggs, bacon or anything savoury in the morning and carby cereals make me hungrier. I usually make a decent sandwich - chicken and avo on wholegrain, something like that - to take to work. I have half at morning tea and half at lunch. I find the combo of bread and protein fillings does the best for me. I usually take a small container of something like strawberries or grapes to have in the afternoon. Throughout the day, I drink water and have a couple of cups of coffee. I always cook at night. Tonight we had steak with a really nice salad, which included avocado and pine-nuts. I had the tip of a piece of steak and about half a cup of the salad and I'm stuffed - in fact I think I might have overdone it a bit. Its Friday so I had a glass of wine but that's a once a week thing. To me, that seems like a lot of food for a bariatric patient but I always ate like that with my band too. I am really active in my every day job too so I guess that's a factor. I've lost weight so I'm not overly concerned, its more of an observation. I think that band sitting around the outside of the top of my stomach really did a lot to keep hunger away for me, and I expected that with the sleeve due to the supression of hunger hormones etc. I dont mind being hungry, it doesnt kill you but honeslty ALL this sleeve does for me is make me full after a small serving, whereas I feel that my band controlled hunger and cravings much much better. I have not eaten any junk at all since surgery - none of my usual vices - biscuits, muffins, chocolate. But that's down to the willpower you have with a new surgery NOT lack of hunger or no cravings. I know an obvious answer is breakfast, sometimes i have a yogurt, but its only adding more food that will slow weight loss even more! And I know people will suggest protein powder, but nobody will ever convince me its not complete rubbish food. So full of sh*t I dont want to eat. And I have yet to find a protein powder that does not give me violent gas and diarrhoea. Dont get me wrong, I'm honestly glad I did this and not complaining, but I did sort of expect that fast and dramatic weight loss at the start. I think its age, the fact that I've had a large weight loss before and I do seem to recall my surgeon making a throwaway comment about being conservative in sleeve size in case I got too skinny, being that I was really only *just* obese when I was operated on.
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    Band to Sleeve! What’s the process?

    I was 114 when I had my band surgery - which I think was a BMI of about 35 for me. I got down to 72 kg which was great at 5ft 10 . My surgeon was so pleased with this and I was asked to speak at a couple of lapband information nights. I never had any problems etc. Then I had a cancer diagnosis and through chemo and radiation and surgery, got down as low as 59kg which was scary skinny. My band was unfilled for a major surgery and it was never the same after that. But although my weight did start to go up as I could never get good restriction again I never got outside of a healthy weight range for many years. Even so, after that I only became *just* overweight, although to me, I was fat fat fat, lol. But my point of view is cosmetic AND health, my surgeon's is health only. So after all the sh*t hit the fan, and my band came out, I think he thought I would not have a big regain - afterall I'd done so well, and had not been overweight in 13 years! I thought so too. I was shocked by the fact that he didnt want to offer me a revision, as I'd been told all along that EVERYBODY that loses their band or removes their fill gains weight, by him and by every clinic doctor. But I didnt particularly want one, I thought I could do it alone. It took me a year but I went from about 78kg (I lost a bit with being so sick) to 97 and I felt like an overstuffed couch when I was finally sleeved in December. I am 85 now which is a BMI well under 30, but its way too fat for me - I still have cellulite on my calves, I'm a fairly skinny build and I get flabby with ANY extra weight. More muscular people can carry more weight. Like I said, nobody has even noticed 12kg gone and I still havent been able to get out my size 14's. It pisses me off, lol. I dont know where I hide all that weight, but I'm kind of glad because this time, I"ve told nobody I was sleeved. I want to keep it to myself this time around.
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    Band to Sleeve! What’s the process?

    I had a year between taking my band out and getting sleeved. My band came out in fairly urgent circumstances and my surgeon was away so someone else had to do it. When I saw my surgeon, I was shocked when he said he would not perform any more surgery on me. But when I went back to him desparate 8 months later he did refer me on to somebody else and I was sleeved in December. I also had a hernia repair. It was quite a long and complicated surgery - there was a LOT of scarring and adhesions and it took me a while to recover. That was 8 weeks ago and I have lost weight but meh - 12kg in 8 weeks which is about 40% of my goal.. Its hardly what I experienced when I first had my lapband, and my surgeon commented that he thought I'd get o my goal in 6 months but not at this rate! Nobody that doesnt know has even noticed I've lost any weight and I have not even gone down a size in clothes. I really suspect I had my honeymoon weight loss 13 years ago when I got my band and my metabolism is so stuffed from years of eating so little that weight loss is going to be very slow. But hey! It is a loss and I'll take it, particularly as I can really feel it gone physically even if I cant see it yet.
  6. jachut

    Gastric Sleeve February 2019

    Wishing you the best of luck. I was sleeved 19th of December, so I've only got six weeks experience to share! I did previously have a lapband, for 12 years, and it slipped at the end of 2017, I went commando all of 2018, which didnt end that well, lol, hence my decision to go for the sleeve. I wasnt quite prepared for the fact that it is "real" surgery. I've had some big surgeries and breezed through them all, the lapband one was very easy, so I was a little overconfident that this would be a few days of recovery and I'd be fine. In reality its taken six weeks to recover (I also had hernia repair) with a lot of nausea and dizziness and general blahs but I feel like I'm out the other side now. But of course, that may just be me, my point being just be prepared for taking it easy and going easy on yourself. One thing I do know about weight loss surgery - there's a definite honeymoon period. For the first six months, you'll lose a lot of weight no matter what you do but my advice would be make the most of this first year. Really work it, as most of your weight loss is going to occur in this time. It will be much much slower after that. Set up good habits and follow your post op plan while you're fresh and your motivation is high. I guess there's also a few sticking points early on, after you finish the liquid phase, you can even gain a little bit as you start on solid food. Dont be concerned, just keep going!
  7. jachut


    Please try not to be too ashamed and hard on yourself. Your body does indeed adapt to your lower weight and restricted portions, and the math may not work for you as it does for others. I cannot fathom how I gained over 20kg in six months whilst sticking to 1800 or so a day but I did! On top of that, having babies does make some of us fat. I was normal weight until I started having babies. Firstly I gained weight fast and dramatically whilst breastfeeding and then those insidious lifestyle factors that creep in finished me off. I started seven years of 3 pregnances at about 75kg (healthy for my height) and finished at 113kg. And not in any of them did I ever gain more than 9kg (which I lost in giving birth). All the weight gain came afterwards. Any surgeon in this business ought to be compassionate and understand the difficulty some of us have in maintaining normal weights. They've seen it all before and although they may have to state some home truths to some people, they will not judge you for your issues.
  8. Now on the other side of my surgery - four weeks out tomorrow. I'm loving my sleeve, all the restriction I had from the band, without the traffic jams! Weight loss - 8kg in 4 weeks which I am very happy with but its slower than I had initially with the band. And I can feel that the sleeve is going to require a little more self control, the signal to stop eating is a fair bit softer than with the band which suddenly says NO MORE. But with the experience of having a band for six years, like me for 13, you get very good at reading those more subtle signs. For me personally, I'm thrilled with the lack of hunger I've experienced, but I know from my experience with the band, I was never hungry either but it did not stop me doing an awful lot of non hungry eating (chocolate!). I can tell this will be the case here too, its not a magic fix for all our eating problems. The best I can say with weight loss surgery for me is that it kept me from non hungry eating AND big meals which was enough to control my weight and keep it at a healthy level. I've been perfect so far, but hey, I'm four weeks out, lets see how I'm doing in 12 months! So.... you really need to examine your habits. What and when are you eating. Is it truly hungry eating? Were you a big meal 3 times a day person or like me, a grazer and comfort eater? Because the sleeve really probably wont work any better than the band for that. What is better, I'm finding is that its a more comfortable restriction to live with.
  9. One thing I can say from unfortunate experience is that you must not tolerate an overtight band thinking it will magically come right. You can do a lot of damage to your body and cause the band to slip. I know how hard it is and how much you want that restriction back, but I yoyod like this for years - ignoring that I had a pouch, until my band slipped and had to come out. And over all that time, I never lost weight, in fact I continued to slowly gain. I wasnt overweight, but I wasnt right down at the bottom end of my range which is what I wanted. I've been lucky to have been sleeved a month back, but the operation was huge - there was an enormous amount of repair to be done to my oesophageal sphincter and fixing a hiatus hernia, both of which i'd contributed to or even caused by refusing to take fluid out of my band for fear of weight gain. Not to mention all the scar tissue. Its also very common to get weight rebound after you hit your lowest weight - with all the bariatric surgeries. Your body adapts, you learn to fit food in etc. There's no way around it, you cannot totally rely on your tool to restrict your intake, some of it has to be that old blood sweat and tears that ordinary dieting takes. As to exercise, you know, I watched a very interesting program a year or two back that always stuck with me. I enjoy exercise and when I was banded 12 years ago I wasnt working and had all the time in the world to run and go to the gym etc. But I"m time poor now! I watched this show where they compared couples and the energy they burned. One couple went to bootcamp, one to the gym and the other did a hard morning's house cleaning. The cleaning couple burned almost DOUBLE the other two who did their hard exercise and then kind of relaxed for teh rest of the morning. Dont understimate that slow, steady movement and you can kill two birds with one stone. Take your kids out for a walk - I used to run with my kids on bikes, or if they're younger, to the park and kick a ball with them, or put them in the pram. Get them to run around helping with housework - and do hard stuff like cleaning windows etc. I have to do that now, as I work full time and want to keep the house in good shape - so I get on my workout clothes and I clean - windows, outside sweeping, I have this stupid laminate floor that looks streaky unless I dry it with towels, mow the lawns - I try to really WORK for an hour, and hour and a half and I get out and walk the dog. That's a big comedown from running 8kms a day and doing Body Pump but to be honest, I'm not any less fit and in fact I'm functionally better as my movements are real ones, not single muscle type of stuff. I truly believe that constant activity is more valuable than half an hour of exercise!
  10. jachut


    Lost 1kg this week, so its slowed down a lot. I went onto mushies - which I think has actually reduced calories, its so easy to get in a lot in liquid form. But weight loss is never linear, I know that from past experience. So, I weighed in at 89.6 for a total lost of 8.1 kg - No change in clothes yet, but its definitely come off my chest, shoulders, boobs and upper arms and stomach. Typically, I will be skeletal on my upper body before it shifts from my hips and thighs.
  11. Oh goodness, you must be going crazy! To go so long eating such a small variety of foods is mentally hard, but you'd be physically running down your resources over that time too. At the end of the day, if you cant eat solid food, you are too tight, end of story. Its so hard to get your head around being banded but still having to do a lot of the work yourself, and that hard stop is very easy to rely on. But you simply must have some fluid removed and try to manage your intake by measuring, weighing and yep, sticking to a diet. The hard stop you get with a band is a step too far, you must listen very hard for "not hungry anymore". I would ask for a barium swallow to evaluate what's going on. In fact, given my own experiences, I'd absolutely insist - what you're going through now is risking your band. You may have had a slip already, or you may just be too tight, but some people really struggle with that too tight/too loose cycle and in the end you've got two choices - risk your band or go for a looser restrition and accept it will be a little harder. Also, if you get some fluid out, work your way up from fluids to mushies to solids, dont just immediately try to eat something difficult.
  12. Your story could almost be mine! I too was a runaway success with my band, I got down to a BMI of around 19, took up running, ran a half marathon etc. It was all great until I had to unfill it six years later for a cancer surgery. After that, it was never the same. When I refilled, I just didnt get to that sweet spot again. I too fibbed about reflux, overfilled in a panicked attempt to control the slow weight gain and did not tell my doctors what was going on. And when I finally did, they didnt act. I was having simply awful chest pain, long story short, I was very sick at the end of last year and it came out in an emergency. I was pretty sure I'd not be a regain statistic as I'd been such a band star and I'd had it for 12 years, but nope. I lasted about 8 months at which point I'd gained over 20kg before I was knocking on my surgeon's door (he'd told me no more surgery). He referred me on to someone else which pissed me off at the time but I couldnt be happier. I had a sleeve, not bypass but I had my lower oesophageal sphincter all fixed up, a hiatus hernia repaired and all the adhesions and scarring from the band removed. I have never ever regretted my decision to be banded but the beauty of it is that should a better surgery come along (for me, the sleeve) then I could move on. However, I found this surgery tough! This was my 12th surgery, I've had much bigger ones and bounced back much much faster. I guess its a bit to do with the lack of food in the post surgical period, but I'm also battling anaemia and I just wasnt fit and in good shape when I went into it.
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    I'm brave enough to post given I'm just sleeved, lol. But last time I posted my weight on this forum, it was in the low 70 kg's. Last night (Wed night) I was 90.6, giving me a 7.1 kg loss in the 2 weeks since my surgery. Now, as to accountability. Ugh. I have NOT been drinking the recommended 2 Optifasts a day in my free fluids phase. I had a week of clears - I did make a good chicken bone broth but so much of what you have on clears is sweet - jelly, juice, icypoles. I am so OVER sweet food, it nauseates me at the moment. I cannnot even bear to think about drinking Optifast as its so sweet. I've made a few good meat and vege based soups to puree and that's what I'm living on. With a dollop of sour cream. I've stopped drinking so much water and am back to 4-5 coffees a day, I habit I'd sort of thought I might be able to give up. Never. And........ I have pretty much no restriction with fluids - I cant feel any fullness at all. So I think I've probaby eaten a bit fast and had a bit too much in a sitting, despite never feeling the least fullness or discomfort. However I also have had no hunger, at all, so its not like I'm having 4 cups of soup at a time. this feels so very very different to a lapband. I keep expecting that hard stop, that definite fullness, this is . much more subtle.
  14. I do feel that if you've been banded six years and are not at your goal weight yet, the band hasnt worked as well is it could have for you. You really would expect to have lost all of the weight you're going to lose by now. What does your surgeon say about it? Other than that I'm in no position to say because I was only sleeved a week ago after being banded for 12 years and without anything for the last 12 months. Sleeve surgery was not the easiest given the damage the band had caused and the effort required to clean that up - surgery was 4 hours long.
  15. jachut


    Restretching your stomach happens with bands too. And not through "overeating" the way people think about it so you should not feel ashamed. With the band, you stretch out your pouch above the band it causes all sorts of problems. I was very unwell as a result, 12 months ago but I was a pretty compliant band patient and very successful. Even so, I overate, just that bite here, that bite there, and over time, I began to have problems. This time, with my sleeve, I am going to measure that half cup portion FOREVER, and I will take heed of the advice that when you get to the stage of needing more than half a cup three times a day, eat more often, not more at one sitting. I do think we need to remember, our bodies are smart and we are deliberately underfeeding them. That bite here and there that's one more than your new stomach can really hold is a survival instinct, not greed or gluttony and it really takes vigilance and determination to avoid it.
  16. Hi, I'm having a sleeve tomorrow but will respond in relation to WLS in general as the principals still apply. My story is I was always "big" but not clinically obese. I'm 5ft 10 and spent my teens at about 84kg, a miserable existence in the 80's. I couldnt wear jeans, was teased mercilessly and generally suffered all the indiginities people talk about. I thinned out a bit in my 20's but ballooned after preganancies, ending up at 113 kg when i was banded in 2005. My experience is this: its a tool. I was compliant, I followed the advice, I took up running and I was extremely successful. Then I was diagnosed with rectal cancer in 2010 and unfilled my band as requested for surgery. It wasnt a problem for a long while in fact I got down to 59 kg but eventually as I got better I began to gain and started to fill my band again. However my band was never the same and I continued to gain. I sat at about 78kg for the past four years, which is OK for a 5ft 10 woman of 50ish. Then I began to have reflux etc and eventually my band slipped completely and was removed exactly 1 year ago today. Even despite all of that, I would do it all again in a hearbeat. Well, as I said, I am, but the sleeve has since proven to be a better surgery than the band and my view is I cant have it buggered up by stupid colorectal surgeons insisting I unfill it, should I get sick again! But oh boy, once you've gone down this path, you need your tool forever. I've gained 28kg in six months without makign a beeline for McDonalds, scarfing KFC or eating crap. I simply eat normal person volume of a very healthy diet and that has been enough to skyrocket my weight. Your metabolism adjusts to eating very little and you can never ever eat normally again and maintain your new weight. But I dont care. I accepted that years ago and cannot wait to get on with things tomorrow and back to my interrupted life.
  17. jachut

    january sleever

    Im having my op tomorrow and I didnt have to do the pre op diet. I didnt have to do it before my band either. I think its because I'm a relatively low BMI patient - just 30 now, and 33 when I was banded 13 years ago I lost my band a year ago, but had been at a BMI of about 24 for years. Have gained a stack of weight in the past six months which is why I've been approved at such a low BMI, but I guess that means my liver is unlikely to be problematically large. However I do often have an optifast shake for breakfast. The way I do it is to make the shake and freeze in an ice cube container, then I add a bit of hot water and blend it when I want it. Makes it thick and creamy like a thick shake. Because I am just using them as a healthy breakfast, I blend frozen fruit in too. A favourite is the chocolate flavour blended with black coffee.
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    This is way late but maternity pants all the way! I dont have a stomach, my jeans problem has always been tight round the thighs with a meter of excess fabric at the waist, I'm so pear shaped. However, I have a colostomy and I really HATE being cut across the middle with a waistband - it even causes leaks as poo cant drop down where it should into the bag. I also have love handles at the back and the dreaded muffin top is not a good look. Maternity jeans solve all that for me and they are perfect for ladies who carry weight on their tummies.
  19. jachut

    Removal of Band

    I had my band removed after almost 13 years - same thing happened. Over time a pouch developed which I had for literally five or six years. Over that time I gained weight, but I was very successul with the band, getting my BMI down to 20, so the weight gain I had was not problematic, I was still well under the top of my healthy weight range. Then the chest pain started. I had once incident where I left work in an ambulance, in 2016. Everyone thought I was having a heart attack - I knew it was my band though. However, NOBODY knows anything about bands in public hospital emergency departments! Saw my surgeon, he unfilled, it got worse, then started the fill, unfill cycle. I was honestly better with more fill even though then I got reflux. Long story short, after a very tight fill at the end of 2017, it slipped completely and came out in an emergency surgery, not by my own surgeon who was away at the time. Everyone, including my surgeon, said basically "youre fixed now, you wont regain weight". Huh. I did keep weight off for four months but now have gained over 20kg in the last five months - and its still going. This is without overeating. I eat like a normal person - but not like a lapbander - and that's the problem. Three meals a day, 1800 to 2000 calories (I'm 5ft 10) has been enough to cause a huge weight gain. You cannot keep to those tiny portions without your tool - once your body wakes up, you just sort of slide into it. I thought I could fill in the chinks with salad, vegies and the like but I have had a lot of intestinal surgery and have a colostomy and I simply cannot tolerate that much fiber, so I have begun to eat things like bread again, and that doesnt help at all. I went back to my surgeon - he referred me onto someone he felt would be better able to manage the scarring etc left by my band and to work around my other surgeries. I'm getting sleeved on 19 December!
  20. jachut

    Post Operative Protein Hemp Smoothie

    I'm about to have sleeve surgery but yes, after my band twelve years ago, I made fruit/protein smoothies. The only thing I will say - and its not so much of an issue post surgery when quantities are tiny - I enjoy a lot of these "superfoods" like hemp seeds, flax etc. But boy oh boy they are packed with calories. Whenever I go on a "health kick" and begin eating a lot of those sorts of foods, I gain weight pretty fast! Not discouraging anyone from including these foods as they're natural, healthy, nourishing foods that in my mind are better than something manufactured like Optifast but they are very calorie dense and you need to keep the quantity controlled. Calorie dense and highly nourishing is important when you have no stomach space, but the calories can add up!
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    Could this be silent reflux??

    This is late but you never know when your replies help others. I had SEVERE reflux with my band and didnt know it. Well, I knew I got heartburn occasionally but the other symptoms, which I complained to the GP and my surgeon and the doctors at CBS about where all symptoms of reflux/slipped band and nobody did anything about it. Eventually I had a gastroscopy (my surgeon did it) - erosive esophagitis. I was put on Somac and that made me more comfortable, I no longer got heartburn. But over time, I still had that burning, prickling in the roof of my mouth. I had a weird asthmatic feeling in my chest. I had a vague pain behind my right breast. And I would get bouts of this incredible chest pain, I'd get a premonition that it was about to happen, the ache would start, it would hurt in the roof of my mouth, my cheeks, under my chin, and build to impossible to tolerate steady aching in the chest. In one week I called the ambulance five times, attended three hospitals, was in and out of my surgeon's office. He did send me off for a barium swallow which showed a "pouch" - that's all. My mother has had incredible reflux related problems as well and its taken simply YEARS to be recognised as reflux. She had to have the PH testing done over 24 hour and the specialist was quite simply astounded that she'd been functioning at all. She had a fundoplication done and has been much much improved for some time now. But never did she get "heartburn" or any typical symptoms. She was just prone to terrible coughs, chest infections etc.
  22. jachut

    Band removed pre sleeve

    I had my band removed after 12 years last December. My own surgeon was away and it was done in somewhat of an emergency by another surgeon from the practise, and I wasnt given the option of revision as it was just days before Christmas and I was lucky to be on a list at all. I had major chest pain, five ambulance calls etc etc. There was no time to think about where to go next. I was extremely successful wth the band but it had been failing for the past three years. I did gain weight over that time, but was still within a healthy BMI. After removal, I worked extremely hard to maintain my weight as I was the lightest I'd been for quite .a few years due to being so sick. I managed four months with no weight gain, but it took a super human effort of sticking to 1000 calories a day. But of course, nobody could do that forever and in the past five months I have gained 25kg, so so quickly! I feel so much pressure and shame because of all the comments I had along the lines of "oh, you've learned good habits now, you'll never regain" etc etc. People just dont understand that by having WLS and living on 12 to 1500 calories a day for twelve years, you permanently change your metabolism. You will never again be able to eat like a normal person. I have not made a beeline for Maccas, or scarfed down whole pizzas - no desire. I eat 3 times a day and I have still gained all that weight. I'm having a sleeve on 19th december even though my BMI has barely reached 30. I am in so much trouble because of the fast gain - terrible foot and leg pain, I'm exhaused, my back is killing met etc - putting on that much weight that fast is really hard on your body. I retain a lot of my fitness cut cant possibly run or even power-walk daily becuase I just pull up so damn sore, so of course, that's causing me to gain as well. Now I've started getting reflux again too. I feel like I am counting the seconds to 19th December! I know logically 100% of banded patients who lose their bands regain weight and I know I have not overeaten ridiculously but I cant help beating myself up about it and feeling too ashamed to tell people I'm having another WLS.
  23. Feeling melancholy today - my band and I parted ways in dramatic circumstances last Tuesday. Made a lot more stressful and emotional by some pretty appalling treatment by the very peple who are supposed to have your best interests at heart. As I have said here before, I've had a problem with a "pouch" for a few years now. I've also had weird chest pain episodes - a kind of dull gnawing ache would start, and the radiate to my throat, jaw, ears, through my back and even down my right arm. Its been escalating for a while now and I've had lots of days where I've just felt "off". I had also begun to gain weight - not seriously but I was feeling fat and unhappy. I went back to my clinic, ready to discuss revision surgery. The doc suggested putting fluid IN so we tried it, 0.3ml in my 4ml band. Took me up to 2.3ml where in my good days before problems I'd been at 3. I was so very tight. Had the nighttime reflux (which to be honest I had anyway), but it felt PERFECT in terms of eating and my weight begain to decline - very slowly, sigh. I had an appointment with my surgeon for six weeks hence so I toughed it out. Of course he took the fluid back out even though we were concerned that it would set off the chest pain. And it did. Two hours later I was home and BAM, on it came, so intense. It must be what having a heart attack is like and causes me to hyperventilate and faint. I had to call an ambulance as I could not get to see my surgeon, we went to The Valley and I was stabilised on lots of morphine - they had to max me out to settle it. Had an ECG and such too of course. I rang my surgeon and he said to go back to the clinic and put fluid in. But before I could do that I had another attack and had to call another ambulance. Same routines, maxed on on morphine and sent home, this time with a "cant help you here, go somewhere else next time". My surgeon kindly fitted me in very early Friday morning as he was flat out finishing up to go on his own holiday. He put some fluid back in to settle it and prescribed a fair few medications and gave me the name of a colleague who was covering him over his break. I was OK Saturday but woke up early Sunday in extreme pain again. So call the ambulance and back to hospital, dandenong this time. Another five or so morphine shots settled me down but again, nobody could say what was wrong. And the minute they hear "lapband" they dont want to know you. but the did some chest and abdominal xrays which were clear however the doctor did give me some Coloxyl as he said I was really full of poo! Thinking about it, I had had no output for days (I have a colostomy). They called the covering surgeon who didnt want to know about me, he refused to do anything and said "tell her to go back to the clinic, they know her there" Anyhow, they too said "dont come back here". So come Monday my DH took me in for a barium swallow which showed not exactly a slipped band but it was pretty horizontal and worse than I know it was before. It was functioning perfectly though, the barium went through fine. The instant the test was finished I was in trouble again, only this time, my husband took me straight into the clinic (not fun on the Monash). He was amazing, I was so numb all over because of hyperventilating. We staggered in (they were expecting me) and the practise nurse and doctor were so amazing. In a long, scary and traumatic week, it was so comforting to see a friendly face and somebody who had some knowledge. The fluid all came out immediately and the doc got on the phone to this surgeon - and she had to fight for me, he was NOT keen. They got me a bed in the hospital and off I went to be operated on the next day. I did meet him briefly pre op and of course I was FULL of questions but he really didnt know me and couldnt answer then and all along, my symptoms have had everyone baffled. So I had the op and it was quick and easy. I came to very well and was a bit emotional but go over it and on with recovering. The next morning the surgeon came in and reported that it went fine and I said "please tell me it needed to come out". He shrugged and said "are you better?" So cold! I mentioned that I was by now feeling extremely constipated, being full of morphine and barium and he put up his hands and said "Hey, not my speciality". I then proceeded to have another full blown chest pain attack, and had to be kept in the entire day. I went home that night, sad about losing my band but sure that when I see my surgeon next, we will discuss where to go from here. So Thursday morning I wake up pretty uncomfortable - its now eight days since there's been ANY stool or gas output for me. I took a huge dose of lactulose and walked on the treadmill for a bit, but I began to have some quite awful symptoms which I wont go into. To cut this very long story short, within two hours I'm in Cabrini emergency (my colorectal surgeon is there) with a bowel obstruction. In the midst of writhing and screaming in agony, who should appear beside my bed but this surgeon, interrogating me as to why I came to Cabrini and why I'm seeing another surgeon. I assured him this was a different matter and I did not think it was connected to his surgery two days before. He had a quick look and said "Well, I dont think its anything I did" and left! I ended up enduring 9 hours of agony before having a decompression done later than night by my own colorectal surgeon and then spent two more days in hospital. Thanks to anyone who's read this far. I just feel so upset and angry over how I've been treated, I really needed to write it down. I've not mentioned a single name becuase I dont want to raise concerns about anyone's doctor, clinic or surgeon as every case is individual. I really dont know if I want any more weight loss surgery. My BMI is 24.5, and right now, I'm so traumatised, exhausted and drained that I cant even think about it. But I do not regret being banded. It changed my life, completely. I'm quite aware that most people regain eventually, so that whilst I'm full of resolve now, eventually that will wain and the inevitable will probably happen. So I dont know what lies ahead, I will speak to my surgeon in a couple of weeks. I'm not sure I can have another band. On a good note, despite a day or two where it continued, the chest pain has disappeared - although it happens so suddenly I cant say. And I ate cherries! Bliss.
  24. I finally saw my own surgeon - he was a bit shocked. I dont know what it is with these doctors (my colorectal guy is the same) but they just dont believe me when I say I'm experiencing pain. They seem to write me off as a hysterical female but he was really shocked when he looked at my barium swallow - he called it a slip this time, not a pouch. Ok, so the way I experienced it was not text book - no vomiting, no restriction, no difficulty eating, just heart attack like pain, but jeez, when I say its 10 on the pain scale, I mean it! I dont mean a 5 but I'm a big wimp! I asked if I had a "window" for this to be revision surgery and the answer was it would really have had to have been done at the time, in the one operation for it to be a revision, as it stands now, he will not replace it because I am a normal weight. This is more than OK by me, I have not gained any weight at all and I am so enjoying eating normally. Nor will he replace it even if I regain 10kg! I pretty much will have to be well on my way to morbid obesity again. Its been a really big lesson. Being without my band now, has made me realise it has been doing absolutely nothing for me for the past four or five years. Other than some weird, inexplicable altering of the foods I find desirable. With my band I could eat anything - I never vomited. But I had gone off fruit, salad, meat, bread, anything healthy basically. All I wanted was soup, chocolate, biscuits and coffee. And that's what I ate for the last three years. Once it was out, that sugar dependence disappeared like magic. I have not even thought about those foods and suddenly I really love healthy ones again. So it has been effortless to control my weight - all I have to do is be strict on portion size, but choosing the right foods is no effort at all. Have I been hungry? To be honest yes - but it is normal to get hungry in between meals after a few hours, especially if you are trying to be moderate on portion size. And you dont die from having a grumbly tummy for an hour or two. I've just accepted that hardly anyone can eat what they want, when they want and be a normal weight. Especially 50 year old post menopausal women! The moral of this story is that a tight band is not really the answer. I have no doubt I am partially responsible for what happened, but I do think that my doc knew about this problem and should have done something about it two or three years ago rather than just unfill me and hope it went away. But I was definitely looking for my band to do the work and it was way too tight and all that happened was I was living on sliders. It really was down to my choices the whole time!
  25. Just an update - a month later I have stayed under 75kg - I have not gained any weight at all. Its really all down to making good choices - at first I was not hungry at all, and got full pretty quickly but as my stomach has healed, I am eating more. I have a blanket rule - no eating between meals EVER and absolutely no biscuits, cake, chocolates or other junk. And stay away from alcohol apart from the odd occasion. And I've been walking for an hour every day. I'm absolutely determined that if I do have another band put in, I will not spend the first six months of my new banded life working to get off the weight that I gained.