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I saw someone make reference to Paleo Diet and I am seeing it more and more in the media (Pete Evans) and bookstores. I admit I do not know alot about it, however I just did a bit of googling and it sure does seem confusing and almost contradicting of itself. Example: 

 

"We focus on eating whole, unprocessed foods like grass-fed meat, free range poultry, wild fish, vegetables (including root vegetables,) fruit, berries, some nuts and seeds. We avoid grains, legumes, refined sugars and dairy. (then next paragraph says)....It’s not all meat, meat and meat with more meat. I probably consume as many fruits and vegetables in a day as most vegetarians (a lot of my recipes are actually vegetarian). Many of us also consume healthy dairy like full fat natural yogurt, certain cheeses and butter."

 

So I thought I'd ask if anyone has tried the Paleo way of life as a bandit or sleever. Since being banded I have gone a bit vegetarian in my food choices, much to my hubby's horror, but is Paleo just about no sugar and no processed stuff? If so, that seems just like everything else out there.

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Our receptionist at work is following it - she weighed all of 62 kg when she started now she is 48.  She is short and very petite now well she was short to start off with.  She is a gym junkie also and pretty much has a stunning body - I may have to kill her next week.

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A friend of mine did it and he lost 32kg in a short period. He did no sugar, grains and processed foods. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Henry i would kill her too.......he he he

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paelo is basically just anything that is natural as it's what would a cave man have available to eat. Eg veggies, meats, fruit, nuts. So no bread, rice, pasta but starchy veggies are fine. So most people doing it would be lower carb than their normal diet. I personally am addicted to artificial sweeteners so prefer to go lower carb and clean foods than going all the way to paelo which has additional rules. I also love my dairy and didnt give it up even when I was on keto (no carb) as I just had a small amount in my coffee every day.

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I don't know all the details of the paleo diet but I like aspects of this diet plan (avoiding refined carbs and processed foods, eating food that is in it's natural state). I don't like the idea of eliminating whole food groups for any diet.

 

The paleo diet recommends having bone broth - I've looked into this and there is reliable evidence to support the claims that this is a good thing to have. It is good for the gut, helps joints and seems to be quite useful and 'good' for the body - helps it to heal and repair, for example. I've since taken to having a beef bone broth upon rising as a tonic and my tummy does love me for it!

 

I personally feel that minimising/eliminating highly refined carbs (pasta, white bread, white rice, sugar, etc) is beneficial - I know that I feel better when I don't have these things, and feel pretty blah when I do. I don't eliminate carbs from my diet completely - I lean towards low GI personally.

 

I am required to follow a gluten free/low FODMAP diet these days so that means a huge change for me without throwing in this kind of diet :)

 

I personally feel like it's healthier than say, the Aitkens Diet.

 

To each their own...if you reckon it's a goer, then by all means have a go, see how you feel - take what you want and leave the rest

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I think it's a faddy catchy name, and little else. Everything in moderation is my motto.Having said that, of course less refined, packaged food is much better for you. But eliminating whole food groups is not clever science.

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I'm back on pretty straight Paleo, day 5 and feel so much better already. I don't find it difficult if you are organised and always feel more alive when I follow it. I got really sick again recently and I watched that fed up movie and I just thought what am I doing eating processed food? I have a few health issues and I am sure over the next few weeks they will go. I don't think you have to be militant, if I go out, I'm still going to eat a small meal and try to fit in dessert but for the most part, Paleo is a good way of life.

Just making all your own food so you know what is in it is what is important to me.

My average day

Breakfast - Oats (non Paleo) but I don't care, they are warm and filling at the min and a good glass or two of Water

Morning tea 50g of almonds and A banana and water

Lunch - Slow cooked meat and veg dish - I make two a week and freeze little portions so I have something different to take every day.

One can or bottle of Kombucha wonder drink - this is the elixir of the gods. I can't believe how good this stuff is and only 60calories per serve.

Afternoon tea - An apple or Greek yogurt with chia seeds

Glass of soda water

Dinner

Meat/fish and veg - I can't eat potato or sweet potato so I omit them but try to make ragu's, mashes, I oven bake a lot of veg like zucchini, beets, carrot, broccoli etc.

Stewed Apple if didn't eat it in the afternoon.

More water or soda water.

I don't drink regular tea or coffee so it's water and Kombucha only for me at the min.

I mix up the fruit and veg and I have a number of Paleo cook books that I make slow cooked meals from and dinners. I don't find it limiting except for going out but even then you can usually get something and aske them to leave off the potato. I'm going to make some slices this week with coconut flour, almond meal, dates, maple syrup etc.

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I'm not trying to be argumentative, but if the point of Paleo is to avoid processed food, then why are foods such as yoghurt, maple syrup, coconut oil and the like allowed? they are processed foods.

 

What is the definition of a processed food for Paleo?

 

I know when I think of 'processed food' I think of biscuits, muesli bars, ready-made hamburger patties, cans of baked beans, gravy/stock mixes and powder, etc, etc. Basically anything in the supermarket that is not in the fresh fruit/vegetable and butchery section.

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I'm not trying to be argumentative, but if the point of Paleo is to avoid processed food, then why are foods such as yoghurt, maple syrup, coconut oil and the like allowed? they are processed foods.

 

What is the definition of a processed food for Paleo?

 

I know when I think of 'processed food' I think of biscuits, muesli bars, ready-made hamburger patties, cans of baked beans, gravy/stock mixes and powder, etc, etc. Basically anything in the supermarket that is not in the fresh fruit/vegetable and butchery section.

Yeah I think that too...people get so dogmatic about a particular set of rules. Not just paleo but any diet. At the end of the day, eat whatever you want. The only thing that really matters is the calories. Everything else, like low-carb, is only marginal in my experience. I try to limit carbs but not because I think carbs are bad as such, just that I have trouble eating a small portion of them and want to keep eating them over and over and leaves me more hungry than if I ate more protein. If I limit them then it is easier for me to limit the carbs and therefore minimise my calories. Eating any protein is a conscious effort for me because I naturally dont eat high protein foods. I spent years trying to find the magical diet that would allow me to eat a lot and still lose weight but it does not exist.

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Well I'm glad to see you two more experienced bandits/sleevers (missy and kaz) are wondering what the heck, because I sure as shit couldn't decipher it. 

 

I appreciate everyone taking the time to share their thoughts. I wasn't going to go Paleo per say, I was hearing so much about it, yet Googling it didn't clarify anything for me, so I came to my foodies (you guys!). There does not seem to be a diet, fad, gimmick or "cleanse" most of us haven't tried in one form or another.

 

I enjoy fresh produce and just wanted some different choices. I dislike the word diet, and since having WLS, I do not wish to ever start a transformation diet/lifestyle over again. I've got one already! And it has done me good so far. Cold weather comes, my comfort foods beckon me...I know the drill. I'm trying to cut it off at the pass I guess. Thanks again x I've learned something here, to stop looking for alternatives, shut up and just get on with it!  :D  <_< lol

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Yep. And who decided that almond milk was better than cow's milk? And agave syrup - give me a break! My other big "shit me off" is gluten free - not for intolerant people, who have coeliac disease, but "trendy" people who want to be special in some way. I know that if I cook it from scratch, avoiding packet mixes and sauces, it will taste better and be better for me. Anything too processed - bakery products, chips, lollies, cakes, biscuits etc is bad. I also know that baked beans, tinned soups etc contain a lot of sugar, so they're eaten in moderation. But if I want a donut, I'll have it! Same as youghurt, fruit, grains etc. As long as I stick to very small portion sizes, I'm ok.

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Anything too processed - bakery products, chips, lollies, cakes, biscuits etc is bad. I also know that baked beans, tinned soups etc contain a lot of sugar, so they're eaten in moderation. But if I want a donut, I'll have it! Same as youghurt, fruit, grains etc. As long as I stick to very small portion sizes, I'm ok.

 

This is what it should be about - knowing your limits and eating for balance. If you cut out whole food types and groups, it'll only make it easier for you to fail. Eating the odd doughnut as part of a well considered diet and coming away happy for having had a well deserved treat is healthier (mentally) than eating that doughnut and feeling like a failure because you've broken the 'rules' of a particular fad diet.  

 

And then you have the followers who will react like you've broken the law or committed a mortal sin if you eat one thing off-plan. I don't want to be part of a diet cult, thanks very much.

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This just come up on my facebook ads...I'm looking through it now...it's my food porn for the day!

 

http://paleogrubs.com/paleo-diet-meal-plan

 

 

BTW I worked from home today and since I was home oven baked a sweet potato with a drizzle of garlic oil, S&P. Ate it for brunch and again just now, with some hot chilli relish and a bit of cheese on top. OMG...so delicious. It would have been paelo if there was no cheese and could have used bird's eye chilli instead of the relish. And I have mashed roasted pumpkin for dinner and the next couple of days to eat with my green veggies and chicken breast. 

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Yep. And who decided that almond milk was better than cow's milk? And agave syrup - give me a break! My other big "shit me off" is gluten free - not for intolerant people, who have coeliac disease, but "trendy" people who want to be special in some way. I know that if I cook it from scratch, avoiding packet mixes and sauces, it will taste better and be better for me. Anything too processed - bakery products, chips, lollies, cakes, biscuits etc is bad. I also know that baked beans, tinned soups etc contain a lot of sugar, so they're eaten in moderation. But if I want a donut, I'll have it! Same as youghurt, fruit, grains etc. As long as I stick to very small portion sizes, I'm ok.

I stopped eating gluten free when I learned that it is normally higher GI than wheat based products. I'm not a coeliac but large amounts of wheat give me IBS, which is just another reason why I should stop/moderate eating white processed wheat products. 

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I want the ice-cream and lollies diet that you can eat as much as you want and become gloriously thin and fabulous. 

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And then you have the followers who will react like you've broken the law or committed a mortal sin if you eat one thing off-plan. I don't want to be part of a diet cult, thanks very much.

 

Don't get me started on the Juice Plus and Isagenix 'cults'!!! ::eye roll:: and yes, I was a Juice Plus convert for about 5 seconds last year :)

 

Angel Butterfly - I reckon that SOME aspects of the paleo diet have merit and credibility (like the bone broth) and having done a 'metabolic typing' diet in the past (where I ate what my Nordic ancestors ate) did make me feel better, I think that there may also be some merit to the argument that "we are genetically engineered to eat certain things".

 

That said, plenty of palaeontologists and anthropologists are arguing that if our cave dwelling ancestors did have access to bread, cake, lollies and soft drinks and all the other highly refined, processed, sugary/carby insulin spiking foods we have now, you can bet your booties that they would have guzzled them because of the energy they would have got from them.

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My workplace has a lot of isagenix followers - its a cult! The judgey looks while you heat up your lunch at the same time their blending their "isalean protein meal" is a joke. I have no doubt it works short term - but so does Optifast. Its all the same, just a different bunch of supplements. 

Has anyone seen the "new" food pyramid? 

 

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yeah my gym PT is trying to flog this isazenic thing onto me, pass! have you seen the bloody price of the stuff!  crazy!

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