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Hello, i was just wondering if anyone here has had issues with their gallbladder since being banded? Even tho I've only just been banded, sometimes when I have a smoothie or soup or even a sustigen I get pains radiating from that region.. I never really had issues with it before, just one time, it flared and I was in pain for several hrs. But now I'm thinking about getting this darn gb out! :(

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Hello, i was just wondering if anyone here has had issues with their gallbladder since being banded? Even tho I've only just been banded, sometimes when I have a smoothie or soup or even a sustigen I get pains radiating from that region.. I never really had issues with it before, just one time, it flared and I was in pain for several hrs. But now I'm thinking about getting this darn gb out! :(

Yes, I had my gall bladder removed last year, a year after being banded. There were no associated problems, although I was pleased that the surgeon who did my lapband also did my gall bladder, as apparently there can be complications, if the surgeon is not familiar with lapbands!

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rapid weight loss can cause your Gall Bladder to 'flare'. I had to have mine removed after losing 8 kilograms over a couple of months one time - it was excruciating and I'd rather have another 3 c sections than another gall bladder episode.

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Ouch I hope that doesn't happen to me, I was in enough pain after the lap band and hernia repair!

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I am currently having gall bladder problems and even though I have now lost 41 kilos I am having reflux at night and gall stone pain at irregular moments. Does the reflux get worse once you have your gall bladder comes out from what I can figure the gall ladder controlls bile production and haivng it out may increase your chance of stomach cancer. Did people who have had their gall bladder out find it reduced acid reflux at night or did it get worse?

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reflux didn't get worse for me after the gall bladder removal. I felt much, much better all round but I suppose it's different for each of us.

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I am currently having gall bladder problems and even though I have now lost 41 kilos I am having reflux at night and gall stone pain at irregular moments. Does the reflux get worse once you have your gall bladder comes out from what I can figure the gall ladder controlls bile production and haivng it out may increase your chance of stomach cancer. Did people who have had their gall bladder out find it reduced acid reflux at night or did it get worse?

I had my gall bladder out before my band but can say no problem with reflux even in the pregnancy that followed.

Haven't heard about any increase cancer risk. I had lots of little pebbles so there were risks leaving them there.

Very pleased I've had my gall bladder removed. The 'episodes' were the most painful thing I've ever experienced!

S

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I orginally got gallstones after dropping 60kgs on weight watchers when I was younger. They bothered me for 15 years, but I only got the really sharp colic pains that ended in me at emergency getting a shot of morphine about once per year - at other times the pain could be managed with panadol and buscopan at home. I've had my gallbladder out early April and it's fantastic not to have that pain any more! I've never heard about no gallbladder leading to an increase in stomach cancer.

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I hadn't heard about an increased cancer risk but I have to say that compared to the gall bladder attacks requiring morphine and having to live on nothing but clear soup to avoid a flare up; any risk was worth it to me. I was so relieved I wasn't going to have to continue to endure what was almost the worst pain in my life!

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I had mine removed after a year.... Mine was infected.... and FULL of Gall Stones.... I was in hospital for 5 days just before Christmas. I don't have any kids but the pain I had gone through would of been right up there with child birth.

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I've had a kid and it's worse than that. The only thing that tops it is one of my killer migraines when I'm begging for someone to kill me. lol.

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I had my gallbladder removed when I was 21. Being young and being a male meant i was undiagnosed for 18 months as I am lead to believe it is most common in the more mature ladies. I was near to topping myself during a couple of my 'episodes' the pain was that bad! If that is what child birth is like then RESPECT to mothers! I actually told the doctor in Emergency Room to go shove his gaviscon up his arse once because it was NOT reflux.

Have it removed is my advice. If a big enough stone gets stuck you may need urgent surgery and key hole will not be an option. Open surgery has massive risks attached, death being one of them...

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II was near to topping myself during a couple of my 'episodes' the pain was that bad! If that is what child birth is like then RESPECT to mothers! I actually told the doctor in Emergency Room to go shove his gaviscon up his arse once because it was NOT reflux.

LMAO! :lol:

Yes, I have compared the pain to childbirth as well - it even comes and goes like contractions when you are in a severe 'attack'. Glad to have mine gone now.

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Ummm im freakin out now im due to have my surjury in 3 weeks

should i have my gall bladder out now before banding??

can they do it at the same time??/

has anyone in perth had it out same time as banding

what are the extra costs

:o

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It is my understanding that the gall bladder can come out at the same time as the lap banding operation, however it is a 'dirty' operation and most surgeons prefer to do the two ops separately.

I would highly recommend anyone having gall bladder flare-ups have it removed. Not doing so risks damaging the liver and causing pancreatitis (apparently the pain of this is even worse than gall bladder pain).

Cat.

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Gee Puffin I have also lost 41 kilos and now experiencing gall bladder probs and terrible terrible pains and reflux and nausea.

I HASTEN TO ADD in my case I have other factors though. I have had Rheumatoid Arthritis for 12 years and that is a disease of the immune system. I have a high cocktail of drugs that I must take to control it (somewhat controlled). This includes prednisolone, Methotrexate, Arava and Humira (self-injected). Have been hospitalised in the past and unable to walk unaided or work or do anything (even wipe my own bot) so those all these drugs all have their dangers they have given me a normal life which I desperately wanted espec with a young son. ANYWAY Methotrexate and Arava are chemo drugs which I have been taking for 12 years and those drugs plus te RA disease itself has caused me probs these last few months with my monthly blood tests showing low white blood cells and platelets and impaired performance. Having more tests and working with a team now - rheumatologist and oncologist, haematologist - having ultrasound to see what is happening with gall bladder and spleen. These organs (and the liver and kidneys but not in my case so far) can be affected.

Soooo to make a long story short I think my medical problem which compromises function of gall bladder and spleen plus the weight loss (which I did slowly over 14 months to try to avoid this!) may have made it even worse in the gall bladder for me. Will wait and see what the specialists and their tests say to do.

Currently have had a rescue therapy course of Leuavorin for 10 days to try to undo some damage - 10th day passed and I have been vomiting like mad, cant sleep, if I lie down I vomit and have reflux and such bad cramps. Today got prescribed Nexium for this.

Phew! This (along with desire to be around for my son) is why I only work part-time - so many medical things and need to rest!

Sorry to rave on - this is no doubt wayyy too much information but I always feel like friendly eyes are reading my posts, espec some of you with whom I have been posting for over a year now!

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Gee Puffin I have also lost 41 kilos and now experiencing gall bladder probs and terrible terrible pains and reflux and nausea.

I HASTEN TO ADD in my case I have other factors though. I have had Rheumatoid Arthritis for 12 years and that is a disease of the immune system. I have a high cocktail of drugs that I must take to control it (somewhat controlled). This includes prednisolone, Methotrexate, Arava and Humira (self-injected). Have been hospitalised in the past and unable to walk unaided or work or do anything (even wipe my own bot) so those all these drugs all have their dangers they have given me a normal life which I desperately wanted espec with a young son. ANYWAY Methotrexate and Arava are chemo drugs which I have been taking for 12 years and those drugs plus te RA disease itself has caused me probs these last few months with my monthly blood tests showing low white blood cells and platelets and impaired performance. Having more tests and working with a team now - rheumatologist and oncologist, haematologist - having ultrasound to see what is happening with gall bladder and spleen. These organs (and the liver and kidneys but not in my case so far) can be affected.

Soooo to make a long story short I think my medical problem which compromises function of gall bladder and spleen plus the weight loss (which I did slowly over 14 months to try to avoid this!) may have made it even worse in the gall bladder for me. Will wait and see what the specialists and their tests say to do.

Currently have had a rescue therapy course of Leuavorin for 10 days to try to undo some damage - 10th day passed and I have been vomiting like mad, cant sleep, if I lie down I vomit and have reflux and such bad cramps. Today got prescribed Nexium for this.

Phew! This (along with desire to be around for my son) is why I only work part-time - so many medical things and need to rest!

Sorry to rave on - this is no doubt wayyy too much information but I always feel like friendly eyes are reading my posts, espec some of you with whom I have been posting for over a year now!

Oh my you have got a lot on your plate.

I have not medical background but have had some nasty gall bladder and reflux issues. Have you tried sleeping with you head/chest elevated?? I found even a slight angle made a difference.

They removed my gall bladder a couple of years ago with a similar laproscopic surgery to banding. The healing was faster and easier than banding if that is any help!

Fingers crossed the tests and specialists will find a solution quickly for you!!

S

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I have been having gall bladdeer attacks for over a year and thiis was diagnosed when I had an ultrasound prior to lapbanding.... Dr Dolan recommnended that I have the band and then see how I am in six months and if I am still in pain then he will remove the gall bladder....can't bear the thought of another anasthaetic however gall bladder attacks are sooooooo painful that I will have to have it done....I am really happy to hear that the pain goes away after removing it! Not sure I would rather have a baby though@!!!!!!!!! A doctor once said to me the 5 "f's" are in indicator for gall stones..... 1. fair 2. fat. 3. forty (or over) 4. fertile (have had children) 5. female didn't do much for my self esteem when I realised I fit all five lol!!!!!!:blink:

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I have been having gall bladdeer attacks for over a year and thiis was diagnosed when I had an ultrasound prior to lapbanding.... Dr Dolan recommnended that I have the band and then see how I am in six months and if I am still in pain then he will remove the gall bladder....can't bear the thought of another anasthaetic however gall bladder attacks are sooooooo painful that I will have to have it done....I am really happy to hear that the pain goes away after removing it! Not sure I would rather have a baby though@!!!!!!!!! A doctor once said to me the 5 "f's" are in indicator for gall stones..... 1. fair 2. fat. 3. forty (or over) 4. fertile (have had children) 5. female didn't do much for my self esteem when I realised I fit all five lol!!!!!!:blink:

I had just the opposite kind of experience. My pre op ultrasound showed a "mass" in my gallbladder, and Dr Dolan called me right away and said that he wanted to take it out as he could not tell if it was cancer or just something benign. I tried to get both things done in the one surgery, but he wont do that because of the risk of infection, resulting in the band having to be removed. 36 hours later I was on the table, and it turned out just to be a cholesterol lump.

I felt no different after surgery, but then I was having no pain prior to that. I am glad it was done if there is an elevated risk of trouble after banding.

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i may sound naive but what is the pain like , i mean where is it?

i have no idea about gall bladders but suffer bad reflux and do get stomach pains.

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The pain can be in the right upper quadrant of your abdomen and also between your shoulder blades.

I had reflux for the first few weeks after banding and it settled as the band was tightened. But reflux can be a sign something is wrong with the band so better mention it to your surgeon.

Cat.

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thanks catapult, o have apt with dr next week and will ask about it.

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Since I had some fill out I have been fine - in fact things probably a little loose and easy - but so damned scared of ever being so tight I am just leaving it at the current level! Surgeon actually thinks there MAY be a leak but I am trying not to think about that. As my health fund NIB stopped covering lapbands or any associated procedures I would not be covered for any remedial surgery if the band needs replacing. I have been on the phone and email and letter about this to no avail. Have changed to HCF but there too I will wait for 12 months til eligible - so sticking with the band as is and the fill level as is. A bit hungry quite often (reverse of usual experience with the band) but trying to keep up exercise and choosing better food instead of worrying about the band - in case there's a prob with it.

I think I will (once I know I am all covered - should be - with health fund) get the gall bladder out at a time which suits doc, me and work. As the surgeon says it will not get better on its own and it is easy to take out whilst non-drastic, if we wait til a bad attack it does become major surgery and longer hospital stay etc. There are dozens of stones in there. May be made worse since lapbanding but maybe there all the time - as being fat, female and forty (and then some) is the criteria often used I am told! DIssolving or blasting both are not ideal for us lapbanders and for me in my case with some meds I have to take that would make that a drama.

If I go ahead - which I will - just when is the thing - I will post how it all goes - elective surgery - hopefully a minor hassle only! I said could he take some other extraneous stuff out too whilst he is there - may make me lighter!! - dont need that cervix any more for instance! They should do a 2 organs for one deal I reckon!

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Hey Stripey

Is your Gall Bladder issue considered an existing condition by HCF?? It could be worth checking!

Mine came out preband. Gall Bladders can be really nasty when they flare up and also quite dangerous sometimes

Recovery was certainly easier than the band but it is abdominal surgery so you will have to take it easy for a few weeks!!

Would be good it surgeons would do a two for one wouldn't it!!

S

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